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Tweak says, "Celebrity is as celebrity does"

It was trying to make social metaphors. (helloworld) wrote,
@ 2009-10-11 19:10:00

omg maybe I should stop having a life. I was really drunk last night, and I lost my keys, and I have no idea where they could be. This is an issue.

Also, I have missed so much shit at Neo. I feel like I don't even know half the characters on my Neo flist anymore. This is also an issue.

In unrelated news, one of my RP biggest pet peeves is when people have their characters regurgitate facts from Wikipedia/elsewhere for little to no reason in the hopes that doing so will show how smart their characters are. Real people don't do this unless they're gigantic tools. Of course, I have probably done this a bajillion times for Steve or someone without realizing it.

What bothers you guys?

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	connie 2009-10-12 12:38 am UTC (link)
	In unrelated news, one of my RP biggest pet peeves is when people have their characters regurgitate facts from Wikipedia/elsewhere for little to no reason in the hopes that doing so will show how smart their characters are. So much yes. I really try to watch my step on this one. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	helloworld 2009-10-12 12:49 am UTC (link)
	I feel like some amount of Wikipedia rape is inevitable when you play characters that know things that you don't, but... idk, there's a way to integrate it into what the character is saying, rather than making the random facts the center of their message. If that makes any sense. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

connie, 2009-10-12 12:54 am UTC

	neruda 2009-10-12 12:38 am UTC (link)
	people playing the saame exact character on purpose. i have played the same character multiple times, i know this, but there is always something different - each incarnation of the character becomes its own, separate vision. i'm saying when there is NO development, NO conscious effort to develop, etc UGH ALSO KRISTEN STEWART I HATE HER FUCKFACE (Reply to this) (Thread)

	neruda 2009-10-12 12:38 am UTC (link)
	*fucking face (Reply to this) (Parent)

	helloworld 2009-10-12 12:39 am UTC (link)
	What is wrong with KStew's Fuckface? Besides Twilight, I mean. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

neruda, 2009-10-12 12:41 am UTC

helloworld, 2009-10-12 12:43 am UTC

helloworld
2009-10-12 12:42 am UTC (link)

Oh also, so much word. This is why I was getting tired of HP. I do repeat characters, but often when I don't feel I've fulfilled the vision, or when I think that a new situation will bring out a different side of the character. I am actually really excited for the Manhattan Project because I've already thought of lots of ways that the new situation might change at least three of my old Maimed characters. And it is exciting. :]

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hello_from_dis
2009-10-12 12:49 am UTC (link)

People who don't commit to their douchebaggy character. Like, if you app someone who's a giant tool, or dick, or otherwise nasty person -- play them as a nasty person. It drives me crazy when someone apps a character with generally unfavorable traits but then completely goes back on that to make sure their character is liked. I mean, I get why people do it -- who wants to have a character everyone hates, really -- but I feel like it almost invariably backfires and people end up hating the character/player more.

ALSO people who use really beautiful PBs and then say in the app that the character ~doesn't realize how beautiful they truly are~. Sometimes it's understandable if the character's background would force them to be totally oblivious to their own physical appearance, or if they were idk blind, but usually it's just asking for a nasty Mary Sue mess.

Also also augh keys D: Have you found them yet?

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	helloworld 2009-10-12 12:51 am UTC (link)
	I KIND OF DID THAT FIRST THING WITH HEATHER. Only I like to pretend that going back on her nastiness was chardev and not me being a wimp. NO I HAVE NOT. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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macguffin
2009-10-12 12:59 am UTC (link)

RE: Wikipedia - What if their character is supposed to be irritating, though? I mean, I can see it being irritating if someone just keeps quoting Wikipedia and pretending that their character came up with it all, but I think it'd work in favour of a character who actually would quote Wikipedia and then pretend that they made it up to sound smart. IF THAT MAKES SENSE?

ANYWAY. It bothers me when people take a canon character from the HP fandom and then remove all of their less favourable qualities, like claiming that Millicent Bulstrode went on a diet and lost a bunch of weight and then choosing Megan Fox as her PB (NOTE: I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THIS. This Millicent was also an animagus, "from birth". FJDFDJKSL). Like, clearing up Eloise Midgen's acne is one thing; turning Millicent Bulstrode into a supermodel who defies the laws of magic is another.

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	neruda 2009-10-12 01:02 am UTC (link)
	a character who actually would quote Wikipedia and then pretend that they made it up to sound smart. LIZZY? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	czolgosz 2009-10-12 01:24 am UTC (link)
	I am in SUCH A WEIRD MOOD and cannot think of a single one of my pet peeves. my brain is soooooooo dead from oversleeping (Reply to this) (Thread)

	helloworld 2009-10-12 01:30 am UTC (link)
	But you have like a million, this boggles the mind. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	helloworld 2009-10-12 01:31 am UTC (link)
	Hell I could name your pet peeves. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	freud 2009-10-12 01:32 am UTC (link)
	I do the fact thing all the time for Willa. I know nothing about bears :/ (Reply to this) (Thread)

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missbossyboots
2009-10-12 01:33 am UTC (link)

My biggest pet peeve is people not being willing to deal with consequences of their character's actions. If your characters is a raging bitch/asshole/idiot/whatever, people will have a problem with this. People will give them shit for it. You have to be willing to take it, because that's the way you've written them. Ditto on characters who DO shit to other people's characters - if you're going to do something to fuck with another character, then you can't be surprised or upset when that character has a problem with it and wants to do something about it. Or just generally doing shit. idk, stuff has consequences, and people don't like to deal with it.

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	bollinger 2009-10-12 01:46 am UTC (link)
	The obsession with "winning"/one-upping someone. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	trashpileodoom 2009-10-12 01:49 am UTC (link)
	Um... guilty. Soooo guilty... (Reply to this)

	missbossyboots 2009-10-12 01:49 am UTC (link)
	Oh my other one is bad PB choices. I hate it when people pick PBs that just do not suit the character at all. Or just use the same ones over and over and over again because they're Pretty. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	flyspeck 2009-10-12 02:20 am UTC (link)
	Icons with wildly different looks for the same character. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	plum 2009-10-12 02:24 am UTC (link)
	I miss you, pumpkin! (Reply to this) (Thread)

helloworld, 2009-10-12 05:20 am UTC

xanthophiliac
2009-10-12 02:41 am UTC (link)

Along the lines of the one you mentioned, I would say 'smart characters' who are experts in EVERYTHING -- namely whatever is conveniently the topic of discussion. Two people are talking in an entry about quantum mechanics? They as good as have a PhD in it! Someone posted their favourite Keats poem? Why, they know everything about the history of Romantic poetry and can recite every one of Keats' poems from memory at the drop of a hat, not to mention they know everything about his life! Uh oh, there's a newspaper article about a murderous rampage in the city? Well, they can tell you all about the psychology of different types of murders and a century's worth of statistics about crime! Hey, did you see the new 'Star Trek' film? Good thing 'smart dude' is around, because he's watched every episode of every series TWICE and can recite even the obscurest lines from licensed novels by heart! Today is laundry day? So about those 347834 brands of detergent, etc.

Similar to that 'smart characters' who show off their smartness by writing entries consisting solely of a famous quote of a passage from a book -- and maybe a comment like 'X was a very clever woman' to show their understanding. I don't think I'm all that smart, and it seriously takes me a few minutes at most to Google for something ~profound~ even if I have no idea what it's even talking about.

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helloworld, 2009-10-12 05:21 am UTC

oh dear don't get me started.

rainbowling
2009-10-12 04:50 am UTC (link)

Okay first I totally agree with the wiki one... however, similarly, Ash's Vicky Frobisher (

yeahwell) is a character who regurgitates facts to pretend she knows everything but it's clear she's completely full of it and is hilarious. And writes self-insert fanfic about Lorcan D'Eath.

OK but real pet peeves. Some of these have been said but I am elaborating.

- Ravenclaws who "prove" that they're smart by quoting shit in their journal and talking about what they read.

- Static characters that don't change at all when there are things going on in the game that should affect them.

- Characters that are strictly reactionary. As in "something happens in game" and they go post "omg this happened." And that is ALL they do.

- Characters in HP who have issues with Obliviation. It's common practice there.

- Characters who are attention hogs. This also ties into having to have your character always one-up people. Flaws are more interesting than perfection.

- Deliberate indirect rpsterbation. When someone has one character saying something and their other one agreeing with it while talking to other characters because the player is trying to prove their first character right.

- Nat said this, but I totally agree: people not being willing to deal with consequences of their character's actions. In my opinion, in-character actions should have in-character consequences. If you mouth off to someone who is a bully (like Crabbe and Goyle), don't be surprised if they try to give you a swirly later.

- Along the same lines, it bugs me when people ignore things established for characters. This is vague so I will give another Croyle example - Crabbe and Goyle are bullies. Hermione was a good witch, but she wouldn't even taunt Crabbe and Goyle to their faces. Everyone knows they are dumb, but there is still really good chance they can beat up anyone at Hogwarts.

- I guess both of those can be simplified to: characters without reasonable fears.

- Social fear is another thing I hate being ignored - social pressure and who is "popular" and not in school is a huge factor in school settings, even for the most independent of people.

- PBs that look too old.

- Characters who are too liberal when it isn't appropriate because the player is. I understand that it can be uncomfortable at times for a character to say something that is completely unpopular now (for example, a sexist character) but there are certainly instances (especially depending on the type of game, the era, and the background of the character) where things may not be appropriate for them to be very liberal but they are anyway. A Death Eater born in the '20s will probably not be crusading for women's rights no matter what the player's personal opinions are.

- Characters only there for the shipping.

- Characters who lose all sense of self with a ship.

- People who don't notify other players in advance when their character is going to do something that affects the other player's characters significantly.

- When people can't figure out how to get their character involved and do one of the following three things to try: have their character give random hugs, have their character send everyone baked goods, get a kitten. Also half the time they tend to not reply to comments.

- Mike.

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corporatecake
2009-10-12 05:03 am UTC (link)

I think a lot of my biggest pet peeves come from two things -- inconsiderate people, and people who don't follow through on their apps.

The first would include:
-- metagamers
-- rpsterbaters
-- people who don't tell you before they do something that significantly affects your character
-- people who do things that are counter-productive to the plot goals
etc etc

The second is things like
-- you say Johnny is an average Joe who has nothing to distinguish him. Then you're upset no one thinks he's extraordinary.
-- you are upset that everyone hates your character who is a douche.
-- aforementioned douchebag all of a sudden becomes a fluffy kitten because he falls in love with Mary Sue
-- you forget everything in the app so your character is "whatever I feel like playing today."

And passive-aggression OOC.

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theblev
2009-10-12 05:24 am UTC (link)

In addition to hating the winning or one-upping thing, when someone says "this is like this according to This Made Up Book Which Was Published in 1848" and then scrambling to the OOC or leaving a note on the comment saying "just go with it and pretend this is a real factual and respected book ok?"

OR. OR when it is a MOD CHARACTER who is obsessed with the one-upping, and in order to have their character win an argument will CHANGE SOMETHING IN THE GAME'S MOD JOURNAL to prove their correctness.

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	sandinista 2009-10-12 05:12 pm UTC (link)
	Using a character to enact OOC vendettas on people in an IC forum. Ngl, I'm surprised it hasn't been said yet, because it is something that irritates me even more than bad writing is when someone can't separate between what is going on with the player and what is going on with the character. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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